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From: "sandra gosley" <macademiagrove@zzzzzzzzzzz>
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 13:22:19 +1000
Subject: was (Re: creativity, gestalt, dreams)

Hi all,
have been following this thread with great interest, and now throwing my
thoughts into the cauldron :-)

Quoted text begins.this is something I've been trying to get at for quite a while. Clive's
recent description of trying to clear-headedly discern and employ
structural features in a sculpture which can commonly send people off
into reverie is totally new to me. This is diametrically opposed to the
notion of letting the material (stone) take you where it wants.
End of quote.


Hmmm, the good old Cartesian split concept seems to be happening here ...
"if a thing is one thing, it cannot be another..." and the artificial
separation of spirituality and mundane - or of people's separation from
nature...

OK... what I don't understand is why the one concept of A) "OK, I am
carving this for a specific effect and this rock WILL become what I wish it
to" Vs B) " Let the stone decide its own destiny" should be so opposed...

... after all, some people are tinkers and some tailors - perhaps other
stones dream the destiny of expressing their own inner nature and other
stones are happy to "go along for the ride" of being "made" specifically
into something dreamed of by the sculptor. Does it really matter? Is one
"better" than the other. And no, I am no art gallery curate!!! ROFL. If I
was, I would simply base my choice on "I just LIKED it" :-) or, to quote
Norman "I FELT it"

Quoted text begins.We still have our evolutionary past in our brains but we are now in a
very different world, we are dominant and realistically only have to
fear ourselves. Evolution and culture are out of sync
End of quote.


Now about the artificial separation of spirituality / mundane or nature /
people.

I agree that we have our evolutionary past within in us, and we feel
conflict between what was / what "should be". (maybe not in brain, but that
is going off onto another thread!). I also feel - and see - the loss of
"nature" within our lives - but one answer for me is to do that which
answers to the old, and bring it into the new. eg stone carving, what an
anachronism!!!! *Laughing*. How primitive can you get - knocking chunks off
a bit of rock!!!

Cave people did it to hunt / supply food. That was perfect for their needs.

Today, stone carving has a different "use"... perhaps it keeps the carver
sane. Perhaps it helps to engage them with energies important to them (eg
creative). Perhaps some stone carvings keep the veiwer sane, and helps them
to engage them with energies important to them (the invigorating roar of
nature within an industrial landscape????). Perhaps that is perfect for
our needs?

Regards to all

Sandra

"tis death to mock a poet, tis death to love a poet, tis death to be a poet"

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